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Lowe makes his move
RUPERT Lowe has
taken a step towards
an incredible St
Mary's comeback.
Following yesterday's dramatic
revelations, broken
exclusively by the Daily
Echo, that former chairmen
Lowe and Michael Wilde
were preparing to launch a
joint bid to return to power,
the club confirmed to the
Stock Exchange it had been
contacted by Lowe.
They said they were awaiting a
more detailed proposal from
Lowe and, with he and Wilde representing
46 per cent of the shareholding,
anything they request
would almost certainly have to
be accepted.
It would be likely that board changes
would result, with the position of chairman
Leon Crouch under threat.
But in an odd twist the Stock
Exchange statement was totally different
to that issued to the media just minutes
later.
The Stock Exchange statement read:
"Following the article which appeared
in today's Southern Daily Echo regarding
Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde,
the Company confirms that it has been
contacted by Mr Lowe.
"The Board of Southampton has asked
Mr Lowe for a detailed proposal setting
out his intentions for the Company
which it has not yet received. Further
announcements will be made in due
course as and when necessary."
In the statement released to the press
Saints were rather more circumspect
and made a thinly veiled attack on
Lowe, pictured, and Wilde over the timing
of their possible plans.
The statement read: "The Club are
aware of the article which appeared in
the Southern Daily Echo today regarding
Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde.
"There is no intention to make any
comment at this time as the board have
not yet been required in writing to consider
any proposal.
"All that matters at this stage of the
season is the concentration of everyone
(board, staff, manager, players and
fans) upon the match against Coventry
on Saturday and the need to succeed
both then and in the following weeks.
"No true fan of the club or responsible
shareholder could credibly identify
themselves with such a controversial
proposal at so delicate a time."
It was Wilde, later joined by Leon
Crouch, who forced Lowe out as chairman
before Wilde later fell on his
sword.
It is believed that the reasoning
behind the timing of Lowe and Wilde's
potential move is that they fear disaster
for the club if something is not done
immediately, a view clearly not shared
by those currently in charge at St
Mary's.
The Daily Echo contacted both Lowe
and Wilde who declined to comment.
To read more on the saga, see today's Daily Echo
8:00am Thursday 20th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Sniper on 8:05am Thu 20 Mar 08
Great story, a complete re-write of everything that was said yesterday. But then I guess Saints have been the same depressing story over and over and over again for the last few years.
Who really cares anymore?
Great story, a complete re-write of everything that was said yesterday. But then I guess Saints have been the same depressing story over and over and over again for the last few years.
Who really cares anymore?
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 8:07am Thu 20 Mar 08
WELCOME HOME RUPERT!
A UNIFYING FORCE IS NEEDED AT THIS TROUBLED TIME!
GET THE TRACK SUIT OUT!
WELCOME HOME RUPERT!
A UNIFYING FORCE IS NEEDED AT THIS TROUBLED TIME!
GET THE TRACK SUIT OUT!
Posted by: Matt, Southampton on 8:29am Thu 20 Mar 08
Why is this story just re hashed for the third time, come on echo you finally got a story try actualy following up and give the 'ctrl+v' a rest
Why is this story just re hashed for the third time, come on echo you finally got a story try actualy following up and give the 'ctrl+v' a rest
Posted by: mark on 8:32am Thu 20 Mar 08
Pathetic article no different to anything mentioned and implying current board lied in their statement claiming it to be totally different. Dont't think so just said hadn't been required in writing to consider any proposal doesn't say they claim to have had no contact. Stop trying to stir it up for a pathetic two bit story!! And i suppose this post will get removed as well!!!!
Pathetic article no different to anything mentioned and implying current board lied in their statement claiming it to be totally different. Dont't think so just said hadn't been required in writing to consider any proposal doesn't say they claim to have had no contact. Stop trying to stir it up for a pathetic two bit story!! And i suppose this post will get removed as well!!!!
Posted by: mullingar on 8:39am Thu 20 Mar 08
All that matters right now is 3pts on Saturday!
Once we are secure in this league, then let this happen.
Pearson needs to stay and be given a chance - if Lowe comes back, supports Pearson and can bring some investment into the club, all fine and good with me.
As I said, a win on Saturday needs to be the focus and the timing of this story is not helping that!
All that matters right now is 3pts on Saturday!
Once we are secure in this league, then let this happen.
Pearson needs to stay and be given a chance - if Lowe comes back, supports Pearson and can bring some investment into the club, all fine and good with me.
As I said, a win on Saturday needs to be the focus and the timing of this story is not helping that!
Posted by: Adrian Smith on 8:39am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mark[/bold] wrote:
Pathetic article no different to anything mentioned and implying current board lied in their statement claiming it to be totally different. Dont't think so just said hadn't been required in writing to consider any proposal doesn't say they claim to have had no contact. Stop trying to stir it up for a pathetic two bit story!! And i suppose this post will get removed as well!!!! [/quote] I wish it would. It's like reading the rant of an asthmatic ant.
mark wrote:
Pathetic article no different to anything mentioned and implying current board lied in their statement claiming it to be totally different. Dont't think so just said hadn't been required in writing to consider any proposal doesn't say they claim to have had no contact. Stop trying to stir it up for a pathetic two bit story!! And i suppose this post will get removed as well!!!!
I wish it would. It's like reading the rant of an asthmatic ant.
Posted by: Wazza on 8:43am Thu 20 Mar 08
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better.
You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!!
[bold]THERE YOU ARE DAILY ECHO, I CAN CUT AND PASTE TOO![/bold]
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better.
You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!!
THERE YOU ARE DAILY ECHO, I CAN CUT AND PASTE TOO! Posted by: Andy Welsh, Sudbury on 8:51am Thu 20 Mar 08
3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
Posted by: Andy P, Birmingham on 9:03am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better. You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!! [bold]THERE YOU ARE DAILY ECHO, I CAN CUT AND PASTE TOO![/bold] [/quote] You forgot to mention, he also use to advice the managers that he employed, what players should or should not be brought.
Apparently Lowe with his vast experience in football said DROGBA was not worth £2million pounds.
The rest is history.
Wazza wrote:
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better. You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!! THERE YOU ARE DAILY ECHO, I CAN CUT AND PASTE TOO!
You forgot to mention, he also use to advice the managers that he employed, what players should or should not be brought.
Apparently Lowe with his vast experience in football said DROGBA was not worth £2million pounds.
The rest is history.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 9:18am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote:
3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership.
Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football.
If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account.
And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons.
If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time.
Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time.
There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again.
The world has gone mad.
Andy Welsh wrote:
3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership.
Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football.
If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account.
And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons.
If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time.
Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time.
There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again.
The world has gone mad.
Posted by: Deja Vu on 9:26am Thu 20 Mar 08
I have the strangest feeling I've read all this stuff before?
I have the strangest feeling I've read all this stuff before?
Posted by: dave, the moon on 9:29am Thu 20 Mar 08
if any of you think king rupert will save this once great club you need to thnk again. all that pratt and wilde are worried about is the share price and how much they are going to lose. myself i never want to see him and that stupid grin at st marys ever again
if any of you think king rupert will save this once great club you need to thnk again. all that pratt and wilde are worried about is the share price and how much they are going to lose. myself i never want to see him and that stupid grin at st marys ever again
Posted by: Saint Matt, Southampton on 9:32am Thu 20 Mar 08
Am in no way sticking up for Rupes but the season we did get relegated we made a number of loan signings that surely would have been good enough for us to stay up. With the resources we had that season I still find it unbelivable that we were relegated.agent Redknapp had more than enough games and quality to have kept us up. I know Lowe's management etc contributed to the relegation and the rot was set in long before Redknapp's disaster reign,but to suggest that he sat back and let relegation happen is a bit harsh. I think the £90,000 in question was spent during the summer of the first season in the Championship,on the footballing legend that is Ricardo Fuller!! Lowe made a lot of mistakes both on and off the pitch,but I'm sure we would not be in this current mess had he stayed on.
Am in no way sticking up for Rupes but the season we did get relegated we made a number of loan signings that surely would have been good enough for us to stay up. With the resources we had that season I still find it unbelivable that we were relegated.agent Redknapp had more than enough games and quality to have kept us up. I know Lowe's management etc contributed to the relegation and the rot was set in long before Redknapp's disaster reign,but to suggest that he sat back and let relegation happen is a bit harsh. I think the £90,000 in question was spent during the summer of the first season in the Championship,on the footballing legend that is Ricardo Fuller!! Lowe made a lot of mistakes both on and off the pitch,but I'm sure we would not be in this current mess had he stayed on.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas on 10:04am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
WELCOME HOME RUPERT! A UNIFYING FORCE IS NEEDED AT THIS TROUBLED TIME! GET THE TRACK SUIT OUT! [/quote] [bold]Saint Sailor Sam the Unsinkable Mariner Rupert Lowe cannot reunite this club. Under his leadership SFC has become as dysfunctional as your family. Half the supporters hate him and the other half are too stupid to see that he was responsible for the damage done. A bit like your family, the stupid one hasn't got a clue and supports the team in blue while the one with sense and brains supports the Saints. Lą oł est le menteur crew 657?[/bold]
sailor sam wrote:
WELCOME HOME RUPERT! A UNIFYING FORCE IS NEEDED AT THIS TROUBLED TIME! GET THE TRACK SUIT OUT!
Saint Sailor Sam the Unsinkable Mariner Rupert Lowe cannot reunite this club. Under his leadership SFC has become as dysfunctional as your family. Half the supporters hate him and the other half are too stupid to see that he was responsible for the damage done. A bit like your family, the stupid one hasn't got a clue and supports the team in blue while the one with sense and brains supports the Saints. Lą oł est le menteur crew 657? Posted by: Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas on 10:09am Thu 20 Mar 08
The Echo said [italic]"It is believed that the reasoning behind the timing of Lowe and Wilde's potential move is that they fear disaster for the club if something is not done immediately,...".[/italic] The disasterous position we are in is entirely of Rupert Lowe's making and he failed to do anything about it so what is he going to do now?
The Echo said
"It is believed that the reasoning behind the timing of Lowe and Wilde's potential move is that they fear disaster for the club if something is not done immediately,...". The disasterous position we are in is entirely of Rupert Lowe's making and he failed to do anything about it so what is he going to do now?
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 10:10am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad. [/quote] At the Mid Season Transfer Window we got on loan
Bernard Davenport and Camara
We were not in the relegation zone when Rednapp arrived but we finished bottom.
I do not see why that was Lowe's fault I agree he did not invest in players to make us a top six team like Portsmouth are today but we had enough talent to stay up even though Beattie did not want to play for us and Svensson was injured.
Relegation I feel was down to the manager and players.
We spent the £90000 on Fuller after relegation and I was impressed with him when I saw him playing recently for Stoke.
We had a reasonable team then but Rednapp again failed to get the best out of them.
The £7 million was probably agreed between Burley and Lowe as George brought in Rasiak on loan and new that he wanted Idakiez Skacel and Davies former players he had managed before.
Although Lowe was Chairman when we were relegated I do not feel that he was responsible for the way the team performed so badly surely he gave Rednapp enough time to make sure the team stayed up.
I felt Harry did worse than Steve Wigley who had to carry on with a load of injuries and did not have the players signed in the Transfer Window.
I still feel we should have beaten both Middlesboro and Everton with better management intervention.
Andy P wrote:
Andy Welsh wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad.
At the Mid Season Transfer Window we got on loan
Bernard Davenport and Camara
We were not in the relegation zone when Rednapp arrived but we finished bottom.
I do not see why that was Lowe's fault I agree he did not invest in players to make us a top six team like Portsmouth are today but we had enough talent to stay up even though Beattie did not want to play for us and Svensson was injured.
Relegation I feel was down to the manager and players.
We spent the £90000 on Fuller after relegation and I was impressed with him when I saw him playing recently for Stoke.
We had a reasonable team then but Rednapp again failed to get the best out of them.
The £7 million was probably agreed between Burley and Lowe as George brought in Rasiak on loan and new that he wanted Idakiez Skacel and Davies former players he had managed before.
Although Lowe was Chairman when we were relegated I do not feel that he was responsible for the way the team performed so badly surely he gave Rednapp enough time to make sure the team stayed up.
I felt Harry did worse than Steve Wigley who had to carry on with a load of injuries and did not have the players signed in the Transfer Window.
I still feel we should have beaten both Middlesboro and Everton with better management intervention.
Posted by: saintjim, southampton on 10:16am Thu 20 Mar 08
great news. I always thought Lowe (apart from some managerial **** ups) done a good job . It was the Northam minority that forced him out and its they that should take the blame. Also SISA had a part to play in ruining this club by getting wilde and crouch to listen to them, when in fact they represent the minority northam yobbos
great news. I always thought Lowe (apart from some managerial **** ups) done a good job . It was the Northam minority that forced him out and its they that should take the blame. Also SISA had a part to play in ruining this club by getting wilde and crouch to listen to them, when in fact they represent the minority northam yobbos
Posted by: Saint Paul, Brockenhurst on 10:25am Thu 20 Mar 08
Love him or loathe him Saints could hardly be in a worse state if he had stayed. As a football man I think he's pretty clueless, but as business person he knows his onions. He always managed to screw as much money as possible when we had to sell someone e.g. an average centre half to Spurs for 8 million! When he was ousted we were promised some big investment, which looks like wishful thinking. Perhaps Heather McCartney could help us out!
Love him or loathe him Saints could hardly be in a worse state if he had stayed. As a football man I think he's pretty clueless, but as business person he knows his onions. He always managed to screw as much money as possible when we had to sell someone e.g. an average centre half to Spurs for 8 million! When he was ousted we were promised some big investment, which looks like wishful thinking. Perhaps Heather McCartney could help us out!
Posted by: Big Banana, Tadley on 10:34am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad. [/quote] Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.
Andy P wrote:
Andy Welsh wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad.
Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.
Posted by: Wazza on 10:38am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote]Perhaps Heather McCartney could help us out![/quote]
Why, is she any good in Goal?
Perhaps Heather McCartney could help us out!
Why, is she any good in Goal?
Posted by: Ric Flair on 10:55am Thu 20 Mar 08
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Posted by: Angry Lowe loather, grrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrr on 11:02am Thu 20 Mar 08
Having Lowe back is like suggesting the situation in Iraq would improve if Saddam came back!
Having Lowe back is like suggesting the situation in Iraq would improve if Saddam came back!
Posted by: Paul, Brockenhurst on 11:13am Thu 20 Mar 08
If your going to use Iraq as example. Lots of people say we should never of gone to war. That meaning we should of left Saddam in charge. So maybe we should never of got rid of Lowe!
If your going to use Iraq as example. Lots of people say we should never of gone to war. That meaning we should of left Saddam in charge. So maybe we should never of got rid of Lowe!
Posted by: N on 11:15am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Perhaps Heather McCartney could help us out![/quote] Why, is she any good in Goal?[/quote] She wouldnt be much use in two-legged cup ties.
Wazza wrote:
Perhaps Heather McCartney could help us out!
Why, is she any good in Goal?
She wouldnt be much use in two-legged cup ties.
Posted by: N on 11:16am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Angry Lowe loather[/bold] wrote:
Having Lowe back is like suggesting the situation in Iraq would improve if Saddam came back![/quote] I blame Redknapp for Iraq too!
Angry Lowe loather wrote:
Having Lowe back is like suggesting the situation in Iraq would improve if Saddam came back!
I blame Redknapp for Iraq too!
Posted by: TFLS, The South Coast Riviera on 11:18am Thu 20 Mar 08
Welcome back Rupert all the real fans support you...
Welcome back Rupert all the real fans support you...
Posted by: dave, millbrook on 11:27am Thu 20 Mar 08
THE LAST THING WE NEED AT THE MOMENT IS THAT DUCK HATING,RUGGER LOVING TOFF BACK IN CHARGE.WHAT IS HE TRYING TO DO FFS?
THE LAST THING WE NEED AT THE MOMENT IS THAT DUCK HATING,RUGGER LOVING TOFF BACK IN CHARGE.WHAT IS HE TRYING TO DO FFS?
Posted by: dave, millbrook on 11:30am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TFLS[/bold] wrote:
Welcome back Rupert all the real fans support you...[/quote] GO AWAY FISH **** ER
TFLS wrote:
Welcome back Rupert all the real fans support you...
GO AWAY FISH **** ER
Posted by: Richie, Totton on 11:30am Thu 20 Mar 08
This news is crap timing. Any potential distraction
from what is an absolutley crucial game could be disastrous. Why the hell could this news not have been put on hold and let the club concentrate on the game against Coventry .
Yet another example of how our great club has been mishandled and mismanaged this season at both boardroom and team level.
On the plus side thank god we've signed Wright - i just hope Pearce is back cos we are going to need him.
This news is crap timing. Any potential distraction
from what is an absolutley crucial game could be disastrous. Why the hell could this news not have been put on hold and let the club concentrate on the game against Coventry .
Yet another example of how our great club has been mishandled and mismanaged this season at both boardroom and team level.
On the plus side thank god we've signed Wright - i just hope Pearce is back cos we are going to need him.
Posted by: Richie, Totton on 11:34am Thu 20 Mar 08
This news is terrible timing. Any potential distraction
from what is an absolutley crucial game could be disastrous. Why the hell could this news not have been put on hold and let the club concentrate on the game against Coventry .
Yet another example of how our great club has been mishandled and mismanaged this season at both boardroom and team level.
On the plus side thank god we've signed Wright - i just hope Pearce is back cos we are going to need him.
This news is terrible timing. Any potential distraction
from what is an absolutley crucial game could be disastrous. Why the hell could this news not have been put on hold and let the club concentrate on the game against Coventry .
Yet another example of how our great club has been mishandled and mismanaged this season at both boardroom and team level.
On the plus side thank god we've signed Wright - i just hope Pearce is back cos we are going to need him.
Posted by: John, Sydenham on 11:35am Thu 20 Mar 08
There arean increasing number of Iraqis who believe that their country and their quality of life was better under Saddam Husseins regime. I am no fan of the beetroot-faced toff but would welcome his return as being preferable to that of the bungling house builder and the factory owner from Lymington.
There arean increasing number of Iraqis who believe that their country and their quality of life was better under Saddam Husseins regime. I am no fan of the beetroot-faced toff but would welcome his return as being preferable to that of the bungling house builder and the factory owner from Lymington.
Posted by: Penny a share anyone!, Bitterne on 11:36am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TFLS[/bold] wrote:
Welcome back Rupert all the real fans support you...[/quote] Yes the real fans will support him, whilst they carry him to the top of the Itchen Bridge, and throw him over.
That should take care of that little pink faced farmer who obviously does not learn from his mistakes.
TFLS wrote:
Welcome back Rupert all the real fans support you...
Yes the real fans will support him, whilst they carry him to the top of the Itchen Bridge, and throw him over.
That should take care of that little pink faced farmer who obviously does not learn from his mistakes.
Posted by: london saint on 11:44am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote]Apparently Lowe with his vast experience in football said DROGBA was not worth £2million pounds.[/quote]
Care to elaborate on that I'm intrigued
Apparently Lowe with his vast experience in football said DROGBA was not worth £2million pounds.
Care to elaborate on that I'm intrigued
Posted by: protsmouth on 11:53am Thu 20 Mar 08
hard luck scumers you stll not got no money ha ha rpuert low isnt gonig to get you out of relgsion so top that scumers
hard luck scumers you stll not got no money ha ha rpuert low isnt gonig to get you out of relgsion so top that scumers
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 11:59am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Big Banana[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad. [/quote] Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.[/quote] I have not made a mistake at all.
Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment.
Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed.
We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium.
Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in.
But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences.
That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe.
As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season.
Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless.
Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not.
But we are not real Saints fans now are we
Big Banana wrote:
Andy P wrote: Andy Welsh wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad.
Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.
I have not made a mistake at all.
Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment.
Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed.
We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium.
Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in.
But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences.
That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe.
As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season.
Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless.
Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not.
But we are not real Saints fans now are we
Posted by: Aussie Saint, Wiltshire on 12:07pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]saintjim[/bold] wrote:
great news. I always thought Lowe (apart from some managerial **** ups) done a good job . It was the Northam minority that forced him out and its they that should take the blame. Also SISA had a part to play in ruining this club by getting wilde and crouch to listen to them, when in fact they represent the minority northam yobbos[/quote] As I mentioned yesterday, the board made one big mistake and that was listen to those fans who threatened not renewing season tickets if Lowe was still in charge, these fans also threatened not going to matches if Hoddle was reappointed, Lowe listened and didn't appoint. The irony is that these same fans were wishing he would return to replace Burley. I am looking forward to seeing the club back to where it was 5 years ago under the masterful and shrewd direction of Lowe. The atomosphere was better then than it is now, for the MAJORITY of fans.
saintjim wrote:
great news. I always thought Lowe (apart from some managerial **** ups) done a good job . It was the Northam minority that forced him out and its they that should take the blame. Also SISA had a part to play in ruining this club by getting wilde and crouch to listen to them, when in fact they represent the minority northam yobbos
As I mentioned yesterday, the board made one big mistake and that was listen to those fans who threatened not renewing season tickets if Lowe was still in charge, these fans also threatened not going to matches if Hoddle was reappointed, Lowe listened and didn't appoint. The irony is that these same fans were wishing he would return to replace Burley. I am looking forward to seeing the club back to where it was 5 years ago under the masterful and shrewd direction of Lowe. The atomosphere was better then than it is now, for the MAJORITY of fans.
Posted by: TrueFan 71, Warsash on 12:14pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Make your move soon Rupert, Your Club Needs You. The Northam minority sheep will soon follow
Make your move soon Rupert, Your Club Needs You. The Northam minority sheep will soon follow
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 12:18pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Aussie Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]saintjim[/bold] wrote: great news. I always thought Lowe (apart from some managerial **** ups) done a good job . It was the Northam minority that forced him out and its they that should take the blame. Also SISA had a part to play in ruining this club by getting wilde and crouch to listen to them, when in fact they represent the minority northam yobbos[/quote] As I mentioned yesterday, the board made one big mistake and that was listen to those fans who threatened not renewing season tickets if Lowe was still in charge, these fans also threatened not going to matches if Hoddle was reappointed, Lowe listened and didn't appoint. The irony is that these same fans were wishing he would return to replace Burley. I am looking forward to seeing the club back to where it was 5 years ago under the masterful and shrewd direction of Lowe. The atomosphere was better then than it is now, for the MAJORITY of fans.[/quote] Well said. The anti-lowe brigade must NEVER get their way again. Do the club a favour anti-lowe brigade, keep quiet and don't claim to speak for the "Majority" of the fans.
You're the reason we're in this mess, so take a back seat and allow someone who knows how to run a football club to save the day. Put your fickle blind hatred of Lowe aside and do what's best for the club, not what's best for your pride
Aussie Saint wrote:
saintjim wrote: great news. I always thought Lowe (apart from some managerial **** ups) done a good job . It was the Northam minority that forced him out and its they that should take the blame. Also SISA had a part to play in ruining this club by getting wilde and crouch to listen to them, when in fact they represent the minority northam yobbos
As I mentioned yesterday, the board made one big mistake and that was listen to those fans who threatened not renewing season tickets if Lowe was still in charge, these fans also threatened not going to matches if Hoddle was reappointed, Lowe listened and didn't appoint. The irony is that these same fans were wishing he would return to replace Burley. I am looking forward to seeing the club back to where it was 5 years ago under the masterful and shrewd direction of Lowe. The atomosphere was better then than it is now, for the MAJORITY of fans.
Well said. The anti-lowe brigade must NEVER get their way again. Do the club a favour anti-lowe brigade, keep quiet and don't claim to speak for the "Majority" of the fans.
You're the reason we're in this mess, so take a back seat and allow someone who knows how to run a football club to save the day. Put your fickle blind hatred of Lowe aside and do what's best for the club, not what's best for your pride
Posted by: edwardo, woolston on 12:29pm Thu 20 Mar 08
going down..... show me a team around us that cares less ???. as for f u c k i n Rupert the bear !!!!!... i dont need to say anything else..
going down..... show me a team around us that cares less ???. as for f u c k i n Rupert the bear !!!!!... i dont need to say anything else..
Posted by: a fan on 12:34pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Nick Illinsworth, what do you have to say for yourself now. You got lowe out, are we better off?
Nick Illinsworth, what do you have to say for yourself now. You got lowe out, are we better off?
Posted by: TFLS, The South Coast Riviera on 12:36pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Well said. The anti-lowe brigade must NEVER get their way again. Do the club a favour anti-lowe brigade, keep quiet and don't claim to speak for the "Majority" of the fans.
You're the reason we're in this mess, so take a back seat and allow someone who knows how to run a football club to save the day. Put your fickle blind hatred of Lowe aside and do what's best for the club, not what's best for your pride
Pete I'm taking a 'welcome back Lord Lowe' banner to the game...
Could you let Scooby know that I am delighted at the popular ex-chairman's return please?
Well said. The anti-lowe brigade must NEVER get their way again. Do the club a favour anti-lowe brigade, keep quiet and don't claim to speak for the "Majority" of the fans.
You're the reason we're in this mess, so take a back seat and allow someone who knows how to run a football club to save the day. Put your fickle blind hatred of Lowe aside and do what's best for the club, not what's best for your pride
Pete I'm taking a 'welcome back Lord Lowe' banner to the game...
Could you let Scooby know that I am delighted at the popular ex-chairman's return please?
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 12:38pm Thu 20 Mar 08
edwardo:
What a brilliantly intelligent and eloquent comment. Now get back into school like a good little boy, and learn to speak and write intelligent English! Idiot!
edwardo:
What a brilliantly intelligent and eloquent comment. Now get back into school like a good little boy, and learn to speak and write intelligent English! Idiot!
Posted by: ITK on 1:56pm Thu 20 Mar 08
If anyone thinks Scouse Mike and Lowelife could ever work together they are dreaming.
If anyone thinks Scouse Mike and Lowelife could ever work together they are dreaming.
Posted by: gordon brown, london on 2:07pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Big Banana[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\\\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\\\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad. [/quote] Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.[/quote] I have not made a mistake at all. Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment. Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed. We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium. Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in. But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences. That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe. As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season. Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless. Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not. But we are not real Saints fans now are we[/quote] "pounds, shillings and pences" my friend are what is needed to run a modern day football concern, being a successful club depends entirely on the ability to live within ones means. Just the same as any other walk of life!!
Andy P wrote:
Big Banana wrote: Andy P wrote: Andy Welsh wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad.
Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.
I have not made a mistake at all. Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment. Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed. We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium. Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in. But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences. That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe. As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season. Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless. Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not. But we are not real Saints fans now are we
"pounds, shillings and pences" my friend are what is needed to run a modern day football concern, being a successful club depends entirely on the ability to live within ones means. Just the same as any other walk of life!!
Posted by: sk8tr, soton on 2:36pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]protsmouth[/bold] wrote:
hard luck scumers you stll not got no money ha ha rpuert low isnt gonig to get you out of relgsion so top that scumers[/quote] yawn yawn your fish are waiting, your step dads had his go now its your turn.
protsmouth wrote:
hard luck scumers you stll not got no money ha ha rpuert low isnt gonig to get you out of relgsion so top that scumers
yawn yawn your fish are waiting, your step dads had his go now its your turn.
Posted by: Saint Paul, Brockenhurst on 2:37pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I think Lowe must have a very, very thick skin to even think about coming back. That said what I can't understand is why the Lowe haters refuse to give him any credit at all. Some fans say he had nothing to do with the new stadium. Why it was not all down to him, we had waited 30 years for a new stadium before he was chairman.
There are other positives that his detractors refuse to credit him: he appionted Strachen, for which most fans were against, and he was a great success; the acadamy has produced players we've been ablle to sell to keep our heads above water; and people were not moaning when we got to the cup final.
I think Lowe must have a very, very thick skin to even think about coming back. That said what I can't understand is why the Lowe haters refuse to give him any credit at all. Some fans say he had nothing to do with the new stadium. Why it was not all down to him, we had waited 30 years for a new stadium before he was chairman.
There are other positives that his detractors refuse to credit him: he appionted Strachen, for which most fans were against, and he was a great success; the acadamy has produced players we've been ablle to sell to keep our heads above water; and people were not moaning when we got to the cup final.
Posted by: Big Banana, Tadley on 2:41pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gordon brown[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Big Banana[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\\\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\\\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad. [/quote] Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.[/quote] I have not made a mistake at all. Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment. Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed. We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium. Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in. But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences. That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe. As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season. Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless. Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not. But we are not real Saints fans now are we[/quote] "pounds, shillings and pences" my friend are what is needed to run a modern day football concern, being a successful club depends entirely on the ability to live within ones means. Just the same as any other walk of life!! [/quote] If you are not renewing your season ticket and planning not to attend - then NO - YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER!!!!! (it shouldn't matter to you about Lowe either) so why comment and make incorrect claims!!!
gordon brown wrote:
Andy P wrote: Big Banana wrote: Andy P wrote: Andy Welsh wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad.
Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.
I have not made a mistake at all. Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment. Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed. We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium. Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in. But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences. That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe. As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season. Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless. Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not. But we are not real Saints fans now are we
"pounds, shillings and pences" my friend are what is needed to run a modern day football concern, being a successful club depends entirely on the ability to live within ones means. Just the same as any other walk of life!!
If you are not renewing your season ticket and planning not to attend - then NO - YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER!!!!! (it shouldn't matter to you about Lowe either) so why comment and make incorrect claims!!!
Posted by: Bryan Bridgwater, courtice ontario canada on 2:44pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Very poor timing IMHO and I would suspect that Lowe's interest is both egotistical and financial...hopefull
y I am wrong. Obviously if things do get worse, the shares will be worthless and both Mr Wilde and Mr Lowe want to protect their investment.
Lets face it when Lowe and company acquired the club they acquired many of the private shares at face value, a price that was considerably below the actual market value. Mr Lowe is a businessman and to me he does not have the same loyalty as Mr Crouch who I understandc personally paid for Ted Bates's statue.
Its really difficult to trust the intentions of Mr Lowe and more so see what actual benefit he would bring to the Club at this difficult time.
Give Mr Crouch some credit for bringing in the Manager with huge potential who has now signed a world class goalie for a month.
Why can't Mr Lowe stay out of it at least until after the critical game against Coventry?
Very poor timing IMHO and I would suspect that Lowe's interest is both egotistical and financial...hopefull
y I am wrong. Obviously if things do get worse, the shares will be worthless and both Mr Wilde and Mr Lowe want to protect their investment.
Lets face it when Lowe and company acquired the club they acquired many of the private shares at face value, a price that was considerably below the actual market value. Mr Lowe is a businessman and to me he does not have the same loyalty as Mr Crouch who I understandc personally paid for Ted Bates's statue.
Its really difficult to trust the intentions of Mr Lowe and more so see what actual benefit he would bring to the Club at this difficult time.
Give Mr Crouch some credit for bringing in the Manager with huge potential who has now signed a world class goalie for a month.
Why can't Mr Lowe stay out of it at least until after the critical game against Coventry?
Posted by: Sunny Saint, Florida on 2:46pm Thu 20 Mar 08
All of you that are coming out with the usual positive spin & dribble vis-a-vis Lowe and his crooks coming back, are speaking through your hoops!
And to say that he was ousted by the Norham and SISA re-confirms that you need to put teeth into your hoop, and then teach it to talk! Koz you really are talking Total and Utter Pooh!!!
I am niether Northam or SISA and I wanted him out, still want him out and further more think that he needs too put out!! As in lights out!
He is only interested in saving HMS Lowe before it sinks and leaves him with shares worth a Penny each!
I for one will welcome religation & Administration, as it mean that the first 50 Mil will go straight to the club!
COYR
All of you that are coming out with the usual positive spin & dribble vis-a-vis Lowe and his crooks coming back, are speaking through your hoops!
And to say that he was ousted by the Norham and SISA re-confirms that you need to put teeth into your hoop, and then teach it to talk! Koz you really are talking Total and Utter Pooh!!!
I am niether Northam or SISA and I wanted him out, still want him out and further more think that he needs too put out!! As in lights out!
He is only interested in saving HMS Lowe before it sinks and leaves him with shares worth a Penny each!
I for one will welcome religation & Administration, as it mean that the first 50 Mil will go straight to the club!
COYR
Posted by: Milton Rhodes, Southampton on 2:56pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Lowe has never wanted to make Saints a great footballing force, he could of attempted to go down that route after the cup final. His sole concern is his own, and his little cabal's, financial interest. He knows full well that there are many mugs in the lunatic fringe (us fans apparently) to be exploited when it comes to football. The man is a parasite and I won't be treated like a mug while he's anywhere near the club.
Lowe has never wanted to make Saints a great footballing force, he could of attempted to go down that route after the cup final. His sole concern is his own, and his little cabal's, financial interest. He knows full well that there are many mugs in the lunatic fringe (us fans apparently) to be exploited when it comes to football. The man is a parasite and I won't be treated like a mug while he's anywhere near the club.
Posted by: Much richer now, with my money kept in the bank on 3:16pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Well that is it then I shall be £800 better of this year as I wont be renewing my season tickets if the "dark force" returns
Well that is it then I shall be £800 better of this year as I wont be renewing my season tickets if the "dark force" returns
Posted by: Aussie Saint on 3:19pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Saint Paul[/bold] wrote:
I think Lowe must have a very, very thick skin to even think about coming back. That said what I can't understand is why the Lowe haters refuse to give him any credit at all. Some fans say he had nothing to do with the new stadium. Why it was not all down to him, we had waited 30 years for a new stadium before he was chairman. There are other positives that his detractors refuse to credit him: he appionted Strachen, for which most fans were against, and he was a great success; the acadamy has produced players we've been ablle to sell to keep our heads above water; and people were not moaning when we got to the cup final.[/quote] Good comments and totally agree
Saint Paul wrote:
I think Lowe must have a very, very thick skin to even think about coming back. That said what I can't understand is why the Lowe haters refuse to give him any credit at all. Some fans say he had nothing to do with the new stadium. Why it was not all down to him, we had waited 30 years for a new stadium before he was chairman. There are other positives that his detractors refuse to credit him: he appionted Strachen, for which most fans were against, and he was a great success; the acadamy has produced players we've been ablle to sell to keep our heads above water; and people were not moaning when we got to the cup final.
Good comments and totally agree
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 3:33pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Milton Rhodes[/bold] wrote:
Lowe has never wanted to make Saints a great footballing force, he could of attempted to go down that route after the cup final. His sole concern is his own, and his little cabal's, financial interest. He knows full well that there are many mugs in the lunatic fringe (us fans apparently) to be exploited when it comes to football. The man is a parasite and I won't be treated like a mug while he's anywhere near the club.[/quote] Be realistic Southampton are never going a great footballing force.
Whats more your comments are probably libelous. You do not know what Mr Lowe's concerns but as you are possibly biased against him you are acting in a reactionary way.
I dont really care who runs SFC I will always support and watch them.
Milton Rhodes wrote:
Lowe has never wanted to make Saints a great footballing force, he could of attempted to go down that route after the cup final. His sole concern is his own, and his little cabal's, financial interest. He knows full well that there are many mugs in the lunatic fringe (us fans apparently) to be exploited when it comes to football. The man is a parasite and I won't be treated like a mug while he's anywhere near the club.
Be realistic Southampton are never going a great footballing force.
Whats more your comments are probably libelous. You do not know what Mr Lowe's concerns but as you are possibly biased against him you are acting in a reactionary way.
I dont really care who runs SFC I will always support and watch them.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 4:15pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Big Banana[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]gordon brown[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Big Banana[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy Welsh[/bold] wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don\\\'t think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let\\\'s hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years. [/quote] It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad. [/quote] Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.[/quote] I have not made a mistake at all. Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment. Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed. We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium. Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in. But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences. That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe. As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season. Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless. Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not. But we are not real Saints fans now are we[/quote] "pounds, shillings and pences" my friend are what is needed to run a modern day football concern, being a successful club depends entirely on the ability to live within ones means. Just the same as any other walk of life!! [/quote] If you are not renewing your season ticket and planning not to attend - then NO - YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER!!!!! (it shouldn't matter to you about Lowe either) so why comment and make incorrect claims!!![/quote] Why should l give all my hard earned money to an administrator.
Its got nothing to do with being a true supporter,l am just being logical.
As for making incorrect claims, l have not, l have merely pointed out facts.
Big Banana wrote:
gordon brown wrote: Andy P wrote: Big Banana wrote: Andy P wrote: Andy Welsh wrote: 3 points on Saturday are vital, I agree. We also need competent management at this club and although I understand why some people dislike Lowe, he is a businessman who understands balancing the books. He also has a vested interest in keeping the club afloat. If he had been in charge over the last few years Saints fans would undoubtedly be railing against his lack of spending, but we would not be facing administration and personally I doubt we would be looking at relegation to division 1 either. I am sure the Lowe haters will be spitting feathers, but perhaps they should reflect on performance since he departed. We gambled 7 million on promotion and lost, prudent management? I don't think so. This club needs a reality check. Everyone agrees that. It might be about to get it! If it does happen let's hope people are prepared to bury the hatchet as this club has been torn apart enough over the past few years.
It is such a shame that we did not have a competent management in place, the season we were relegated from the Premiership. Make no mistake, if Rupert Lowe and his management team were still in place, administration would have happened a long time ago, and probably league 2 football. If Rupert Lowe was only prepared to give £90,000 for transfers the season SFC were fighting to stave off relegation, the £7million giving by the new board for transfers to get us back in the Premiership would now be sitting in some share-holders bank account. And it most certainly would not have been used for footballing reasons. If a manager failed and got a team relegated the last person you would want to employ, would be that manager, for a second time. Why then employ a chairman who also quite obviously failed, for a second time. There is no logics, or any justification in allowing someone who has already failed, to fail yet again. The world has gone mad.
Make No Mistake - You already have - If this new board and Chairman are so good and have made so much investment-where is it??? We all blamed Lowe for monies not spent from transfer receipts, but where is the money NOW!? We were still in the premiership, had a brand new Stadium and were reflecting year on year financial stability. Is it not the managers and teams picked responsibility to do it on the field etc etc. We are now in danger of relegation, have little if any talent left in the team, have no financial backing, and are making loss month on month - so much for the 2nd coming - and look at the statement made by the current chairman - scared/frightened and in severe danger of losing his job for incompetence - bring it on.However, regardless of the situation, I still renew my season ticket every year and have indeed done so already for next year come what may. So come on youe real Saints fans - get behind the team whatever and lest have 3 points on Saturday.
I have not made a mistake at all. Point out where l have highlighted that the new board and Chairman have made so much investment. Rupert Lowe had ten years in which to attract investment, but as with everything else, he failed. We were not in the Premiership,when Rupert Lowe resigned, we may well have a shiny new stadium, but that had nothing to do with Lowe, we can thank Southampton City Council for the stadium. Leon Crouch is doing a good job, giving the mess that the previous Chairmans left the club in. But what is important to remember is that unlike Lowe, Crouch has the interest of SFC at heart, not purely motivated by pounds, shillings and pences. That mistake has been made already, unfourtunately by Rupert Lowe. As you are a real Saints fan, l am glad you have renewed your season ticket for next season. Problem is mate, it will not be worth the paper that it is writen on, because when Saints do go into administration that season ticket will be the property of the administrator, and absolutely worthless. Care to make that COSTLY mistake, because thousands will not. But we are not real Saints fans now are we
"pounds, shillings and pences" my friend are what is needed to run a modern day football concern, being a successful club depends entirely on the ability to live within ones means. Just the same as any other walk of life!!
If you are not renewing your season ticket and planning not to attend - then NO - YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER!!!!! (it shouldn't matter to you about Lowe either) so why comment and make incorrect claims!!!
Why should l give all my hard earned money to an administrator.
Its got nothing to do with being a true supporter,l am just being logical.
As for making incorrect claims, l have not, l have merely pointed out facts.
Posted by: TrueFan 71, Warsash on 4:18pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Much richer now[/bold] wrote:
Well that is it then I shall be £800 better of this year as I wont be renewing my season tickets if the "dark force" returns[/quote] Well there you go then, two different supporters and TWO opposing views. I would not renew my season tickets while these current clowns are in situ. Let Rupert come back and I'll be £1000 lighter, but happier and more optomistic for the future. At least my money would not be subsidising McMenemy and Wiseman's lifestyle.
Much richer now wrote:
Well that is it then I shall be £800 better of this year as I wont be renewing my season tickets if the "dark force" returns
Well there you go then, two different supporters and TWO opposing views. I would not renew my season tickets while these current clowns are in situ. Let Rupert come back and I'll be £1000 lighter, but happier and more optomistic for the future. At least my money would not be subsidising McMenemy and Wiseman's lifestyle.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 4:27pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TFLS[/bold] wrote:
Well said. The anti-lowe brigade must NEVER get their way again. Do the club a favour anti-lowe brigade, keep quiet and don't claim to speak for the "Majority" of the fans. You're the reason we're in this mess, so take a back seat and allow someone who knows how to run a football club to save the day. Put your fickle blind hatred of Lowe aside and do what's best for the club, not what's best for your pride Pete I'm taking a 'welcome back Lord Lowe' banner to the game... Could you let Scooby know that I am delighted at the popular ex-chairman's return please?[/quote] The anti-lowe brigade that you refer to, l assume are the whole four sides of SMS that stood
